Comments on: Two Solitudes And One Loneliness http://correresmidestino.com/two-solitudes-and-one-loneliness/ Snowed under since 2004! Sat, 11 Feb 2012 16:57:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: 5 Things My Mum Observed in Canada | Correr Es Mi Destino http://correresmidestino.com/two-solitudes-and-one-loneliness/comment-page-4/#comment-30282 5 Things My Mum Observed in Canada | Correr Es Mi Destino Wed, 10 Aug 2011 10:41:54 +0000 http://correresmidestino.com/archives/113#comment-30282 [...] places were the locks and the walk by the river. When we visited Montreal for a day, she noticed the difference between Ontario and Quebec regarding the people, the language and the culture. She hadn’t imagined Toronto that big (the [...] […] places were the locks and the walk by the river. When we visited Montreal for a day, she noticed the difference between Ontario and Quebec regarding the people, the language and the culture. She hadn’t imagined Toronto that big (the […]

]]> By: Monica http://correresmidestino.com/two-solitudes-and-one-loneliness/comment-page-4/#comment-4041 Monica Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:05:33 +0000 http://correresmidestino.com/archives/113#comment-4041 I grew up in English Canada but I live in Montreal now. I love it here, much better than, say, Toronto. I am not sure if I could live elsewhere in Quebec, though. What makes you think Quebecers don't say "les toilettes"? They do, especially for public washrooms. "Chambre de bain" is for a bathroom (in a house). As someone who learned French through being in French immersion in school in English Canada and now lives in Quebec, I feel very strongly that Canadian schools should teach Canadian French, not European French. Teaching English Canadians to speak European French is like teaching Quebec kids to speak British English. I grew up in English Canada but I live in Montreal now. I love it here, much better than, say, Toronto. I am not sure if I could live elsewhere in Quebec, though.

What makes you think Quebecers don’t say “les toilettes”? They do, especially for public washrooms. “Chambre de bain” is for a bathroom (in a house). As someone who learned French through being in French immersion in school in English Canada and now lives in Quebec, I feel very strongly that Canadian schools should teach Canadian French, not European French. Teaching English Canadians to speak European French is like teaching Quebec kids to speak British English.

]]> By: bluefish http://correresmidestino.com/two-solitudes-and-one-loneliness/comment-page-4/#comment-3806 bluefish Fri, 13 Jun 2008 04:42:17 +0000 http://correresmidestino.com/archives/113#comment-3806 I'm torn in this situation because I'm an immigrant. Some people who are born in Quebec are not even bilingual and I wonder why not? Why French is imposed to immigrants, and not to Anglophones? I am better at both languages compared to native born. It's a shame for them. bluefishs last great read...Rules about flying I’m torn in this situation because I’m an immigrant. Some people who are born in Quebec are not even bilingual and I wonder why not? Why French is imposed to immigrants, and not to Anglophones? I am better at both languages compared to native born. It’s a shame for them.

bluefishs last great read…Rules about flying

]]> By: Canadian-ism (s) -- Part II: French & English | Correr Es Mi Destino http://correresmidestino.com/two-solitudes-and-one-loneliness/comment-page-4/#comment-2249 Canadian-ism (s) -- Part II: French & English | Correr Es Mi Destino Sat, 19 Jan 2008 14:00:33 +0000 http://correresmidestino.com/archives/113#comment-2249 [...] Two Solitudes And One Loneliness [...] […] Two Solitudes And One Loneliness […]

]]> By: Mayank http://correresmidestino.com/two-solitudes-and-one-loneliness/comment-page-4/#comment-1060 Mayank Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:42:06 +0000 http://correresmidestino.com/archives/113#comment-1060 <blockquote> Mayank : India is a fascinating country ! So I guess it’s like China. Mandarin was chosen but there are like 50 dialects/ languages. However, the process went smoothly in China as far as I know… India really impresses me. Sure, it has its challenges but the population looks really qualified and really energitic. </blockquote> Well the 50 dialects of China cant really be compared to India's 22 languages, as the 22 other languages are "officially recognised". At last count, some organisation had identified over 1600 dialects being spoken in India.

Mayank : India is a fascinating country ! So I guess it’s like China. Mandarin was chosen but there are like 50 dialects/ languages. However, the process went smoothly in China as far as I know…
India really impresses me. Sure, it has its challenges but the population looks really qualified and really energitic.

Well the 50 dialects of China cant really be compared to India’s 22 languages, as the 22 other languages are “officially recognised”. At last count, some organisation had identified over 1600 dialects being spoken in India.

]]> By: Zhu http://correresmidestino.com/two-solitudes-and-one-loneliness/comment-page-3/#comment-1031 Zhu Fri, 19 Oct 2007 00:40:23 +0000 http://correresmidestino.com/archives/113#comment-1031 FroggyWoogie : it all depends on people, but to a certain extent, no, they don't feel like they belong to the same country. Quebec call us, English Canada, the ROC (Rest Of Canada). As for teaching, I teach my French... but I give the equivalent in Québec when I know it (i.e : les toilettes FR - la chambre de bain QC). There isn't a huge difference to be honest... people speak a bit of both "languages". Ys: I don't know the situation in Ireland now, but some people compared it to the one with Québec. It's a great chance to learn the local language... but yeah, if it's forced there's no point. There's a difference between brainwashing and teaching! I love Gaelic though... sounds so mysterious ! Empress Eve: I was browsing blogs yesterday and I'm really glad I stumble upon yours. I like your theme and your writing ! I'll be back soon, you're in my feed. And even though I'm French, I have nothing against Americans - isn't it great ! :razz: Deadpoolite : ah, my favorite Greek ! My mythic Greek ! My Hellenic counterpart ! Yeah, my brain is weird these days... one side want to revolt and the other just want a cup of tea. That's what happens when you live between French and English I guess ! :roll: The Pilgrim : thanks for stopping by ! I guess you understand what I mean since you lived in Ontario. I don't know Western Canada actually, but I can imagine it's much more British. Mayank : India is a fascinating country ! So I guess it's like China. Mandarin was chosen but there are like 50 dialects/ languages. However, the process went smoothly in China as far as I know... India really impresses me. Sure, it has its challenges but the population looks really qualified and really energitic. FroggyWoogie : it all depends on people, but to a certain extent, no, they don’t feel like they belong to the same country. Quebec call us, English Canada, the ROC (Rest Of Canada).

As for teaching, I teach my French… but I give the equivalent in Québec when I know it (i.e : les toilettes FR — la chambre de bain QC). There isn’t a huge difference to be honest… people speak a bit of both “languages”.

Ys: I don’t know the situation in Ireland now, but some people compared it to the one with Québec. It’s a great chance to learn the local language… but yeah, if it’s forced there’s no point. There’s a difference between brainwashing and teaching! I love Gaelic though… sounds so mysterious !

Empress Eve: I was browsing blogs yesterday and I’m really glad I stumble upon yours. I like your theme and your writing ! I’ll be back soon, you’re in my feed. And even though I’m French, I have nothing against Americans — isn’t it great ! :razz:

Deadpoolite : ah, my favorite Greek ! My mythic Greek ! My Hellenic counterpart ! Yeah, my brain is weird these days… one side want to revolt and the other just want a cup of tea. That’s what happens when you live between French and English I guess ! :roll:

The Pilgrim : thanks for stopping by ! I guess you understand what I mean since you lived in Ontario. I don’t know Western Canada actually, but I can imagine it’s much more British.

Mayank : India is a fascinating country ! So I guess it’s like China. Mandarin was chosen but there are like 50 dialects/ languages. However, the process went smoothly in China as far as I know…

India really impresses me. Sure, it has its challenges but the population looks really qualified and really energitic.

]]> By: Mayank http://correresmidestino.com/two-solitudes-and-one-loneliness/comment-page-3/#comment-1023 Mayank Thu, 18 Oct 2007 17:33:26 +0000 http://correresmidestino.com/archives/113#comment-1023 Hi! It is a problem that India has also faced. And India is not bilingual, its multilingual. So when the most spoken language, Hindi was chosen to become the national language, there was stiff resistance to this move, especially from the southern states. Hence India is a country with not one official language but as many as 22 languages, in addition to English. However of late, English has overtaken all tother language in terms of importance, and has become the integrating language for the nation. Strange, isn't it? Hi!

It is a problem that India has also faced. And India is not bilingual, its multilingual. So when the most spoken language, Hindi was chosen to become the national language, there was stiff resistance to this move, especially from the southern states.

Hence India is a country with not one official language but as many as 22 languages, in addition to English.

However of late, English has overtaken all tother language in terms of importance, and has become the integrating language for the nation. Strange, isn’t it?

]]> By: The Pilgrim http://correresmidestino.com/two-solitudes-and-one-loneliness/comment-page-3/#comment-1021 The Pilgrim Thu, 18 Oct 2007 15:40:13 +0000 http://correresmidestino.com/archives/113#comment-1021 I lived in Ontario for a couple of years and I found it a very interesting debate. As traveled to the West to Victoria, I saw they were more British than Canadian. But at the end of my stay, I did see learn french, could order food when I went to Montreal, fill up a speeding ticket which was entirely in French. And yet wondered that some countries like India have 32 official languages and they don't talk about separating based on language or culture. I lived in Ontario for a couple of years and I found it a very interesting debate. As traveled to the West to Victoria, I saw they were more British than Canadian. But at the end of my stay, I did see learn french, could order food when I went to Montreal, fill up a speeding ticket which was entirely in French. And yet wondered that some countries like India have 32 official languages and they don’t talk about separating based on language or culture.

]]> By: Deadpoolite http://correresmidestino.com/two-solitudes-and-one-loneliness/comment-page-3/#comment-1020 Deadpoolite Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:54:39 +0000 http://correresmidestino.com/archives/113#comment-1020 Whenever your French genes revolt and dominate your psyche give me a call... a call to arms that is:) French people and rebellion have always been close friends. At present it seems the english speaking people are trying to lure you into a false sense of security that everything is ok...In time the frolic dark side of this French rebellious woman will be ready to upturn the english status quo of Canada. One day, you are going to see the "wisdom" behind my words friend. Probably the same day when you are going to be a senile 100 year old who wont know which way is up:) Oh well, live the dream of linguistic tolerance for while it lasts:) Seriously though, great post and good to know you treat such subjects with a mixed blend of levity and seriousness at equal measures that doesn't tire and is always fun:) Keep those posts coming! Whenever your French genes revolt and dominate your psyche give me a call… a call to arms that is:) French people and rebellion have always been close friends. At present it seems the english speaking people are trying to lure you into a false sense of security that everything is ok…In time the frolic dark side of this French rebellious woman will be ready to upturn the english status quo of Canada.

One day, you are going to see the “wisdom” behind my words friend. Probably the same day when you are going to be a senile 100 year old who wont know which way is up:)

Oh well, live the dream of linguistic tolerance for while it lasts:)

Seriously though, great post and good to know you treat such subjects with a mixed blend of levity and seriousness at equal measures that doesn’t tire and is always fun:)

Keep those posts coming!

]]> By: Empress Eve http://correresmidestino.com/two-solitudes-and-one-loneliness/comment-page-3/#comment-1019 Empress Eve Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:39:15 +0000 http://correresmidestino.com/archives/113#comment-1019 That's for leaving me a comment, because now I've gotten to check out your blog! How wonderfully interesting. I'm from the U.S., but I've always wanted to visit Canada. For some reason, whenever I find out someone is from Canada or they live there, I automatically like them, lol. I don't know, I just always love the Canadians (I've written about it several times in my blog). I look forward to reading through your archives as well as all of your future posts. :-) -- P.S. I also tend to like the French, although I must say, I haven't come across too many French people in my life. That’s for leaving me a comment, because now I’ve gotten to check out your blog! How wonderfully interesting. I’m from the U.S., but I’ve always wanted to visit Canada. For some reason, whenever I find out someone is from Canada or they live there, I automatically like them, lol. I don’t know, I just always love the Canadians (I’ve written about it several times in my blog). I look forward to reading through your archives as well as all of your future posts. :-) — P.S. I also tend to like the French, although I must say, I haven’t come across too many French people in my life.

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