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		<title>By: Canadian Multiculturalism &#124; Correr Es Mi Destino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Canadian Multiculturalism &#124; Correr Es Mi Destino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the fact any society is prone to the irrational fear that its identity might disappears overnight. Ignorance exists [...]</description>
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		<title>By: zunnur</title>
		<link>http://correresmidestino.com/us-vs-them/comment-page-5/#comment-1447</link>
		<dc:creator>zunnur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 13:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Zhu  :razz: 
&quot;There’s a huge gap between the desire of some to turn their adoptive country into their native land and other that just want to see their personal freedom respected.&quot; - very well said and very true, I think that the immigrants should go for the latter and the natives should tolerate for them. In my country, there are a lot of immigrants and quite a large number of them, mostly from the group with low education level, were involved in various crimes, but unfortunately, this group has caused people to look bad at the rest of them.

&lt;em&gt;zunnur&#039;s last blog post..&lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href=&#039;http://a-little-time.blogspot.com/2007/11/when-i-was-away.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;When I was away&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Zhu  <img src='http://correresmidestino.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':razz:' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
“There’s a huge gap between the desire of some to turn their adoptive country into their native land and other that just want to see their personal freedom respected.” — very well said and very true, I think that the immigrants should go for the latter and the natives should tolerate for them. In my country, there are a lot of immigrants and quite a large number of them, mostly from the group with low education level, were involved in various crimes, but unfortunately, this group has caused people to look bad at the rest of them.</p>
<p><em>zunnur’s last blog post..</em><a href='http://a-little-time.blogspot.com/2007/11/when-i-was-away.html' rel="nofollow">When I was away</a></p>
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		<title>By: Max Coutinho</title>
		<link>http://correresmidestino.com/us-vs-them/comment-page-5/#comment-1431</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Coutinho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Zhu,

Congratulations on such an important theme!

I agree with you: I don&#039;t mind the Sikhs wearing their turban (it&#039;s their culture); employees have the right to holidays anyway, so let them manage those days (for religious people holidays are extremely important, so let&#039;s respect that); I don&#039;t mind the girls wearing veils (not burqas though); I don&#039;t mind at all seeing kosher food in my local supermarket; Kosher meals are delicious (just like any other cultural dish); I am not against municipal employees to say a prayer in the workplace.

We, westerners, claim to be more tolerant...so, let&#039;s act that way for good. If we start saying &quot;adjust if you want to leave here&quot; we are being no different than Muslim countries that actually make us wear those veils and burqas when we visit their countries (it&#039;s ok for them, they are used to it; but for us to wear them under extreme heat is torture) *nodding*.

I am in favour of immigration cause it means development, cultural exchange and enrichment, and in Portugal it means population (natality rates).

You are an excellent example of an immigrant, and asset to Canada, and thank God you kept your French idiosyncracies :).

Cheers

&lt;em&gt;Max Coutinho&#039;s last blog post..&lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href=&#039;http://maxcouti.blogspot.com/2007/11/four-seasons-of-truth.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Four Seasons of Truth&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Zhu,</p>
<p>Congratulations on such an important theme!</p>
<p>I agree with you: I don’t mind the Sikhs wearing their turban (it’s their culture); employees have the right to holidays anyway, so let them manage those days (for religious people holidays are extremely important, so let’s respect that); I don’t mind the girls wearing veils (not burqas though); I don’t mind at all seeing kosher food in my local supermarket; Kosher meals are delicious (just like any other cultural dish); I am not against municipal employees to say a prayer in the workplace.</p>
<p>We, westerners, claim to be more tolerant…so, let’s act that way for good. If we start saying “adjust if you want to leave here” we are being no different than Muslim countries that actually make us wear those veils and burqas when we visit their countries (it’s ok for them, they are used to it; but for us to wear them under extreme heat is torture) *nodding*.</p>
<p>I am in favour of immigration cause it means development, cultural exchange and enrichment, and in Portugal it means population (natality rates).</p>
<p>You are an excellent example of an immigrant, and asset to Canada, and thank God you kept your French idiosyncracies <img src='http://correresmidestino.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p><em>Max Coutinho’s last blog post..</em><a href='http://maxcouti.blogspot.com/2007/11/four-seasons-of-truth.html' rel="nofollow">The Four Seasons of Truth</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gledwood</title>
		<link>http://correresmidestino.com/us-vs-them/comment-page-5/#comment-1430</link>
		<dc:creator>Gledwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O bloody hell how did i know it would just say &quot;roll roll roll&quot; how does everyone else get faces on THEIR comments, eh?

&lt;em&gt;Gledwood&#039;s last blog post..&lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href=&#039;http://gledwood2.blogspot.com/2007/11/i-cleaned-out-my-gremlins-into-brand.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brand New Gremlinerry/etc...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O bloody hell how did i know it would just say “roll roll roll” how does everyone else get faces on THEIR comments, eh?</p>
<p><em>Gledwood’s last blog post..</em><a href='http://gledwood2.blogspot.com/2007/11/i-cleaned-out-my-gremlins-into-brand.html' rel="nofollow">Brand New Gremlinerry/etc…</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gledwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gledwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:roll:  :roll:  :roll: 
Hi Zhu I hope it has put my eyerolling &quot;thang&quot; up above like I asked it to...
Your blog has changed and yet when I click on your image I get to your old one... O! I get it... different &quot;blogger&quot; thangs...
How do I get my picture up here all trendy and like...
I&#039;m glad you said you liked my tagline or whatever the expression is... no-one else has even mentioned it!
Many thanks for your expression...
are you teaching French in schools though?
Are most Canadians fully bilingual like Belgians then? I&#039;ve noticed the English speaking portion don&#039;t really seem ever to mention their francophone co-hortts...
Then I saw Celine Dion speaking on TV from years ago and was genuinely surprised that she was bad at English... is Canada really such a divided country?
Please tell me you can tell me privately on my email if you don&#039;t want to leave a comment... bear in mind I spend about 7 years of my life studying French, Welsh and German (long story) so languages are a fascination of mine...
 :roll:  :roll:  :roll:

&lt;em&gt;Gledwood&#039;s last blog post..&lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href=&#039;http://gledwood2.blogspot.com/2007/11/i-cleaned-out-my-gremlins-into-brand.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brand New Gremlinerry/etc...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://correresmidestino.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' />   <img src='http://correresmidestino.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' />   <img src='http://correresmidestino.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Hi Zhu I hope it has put my eyerolling “thang” up above like I asked it to…<br />
Your blog has changed and yet when I click on your image I get to your old one… O! I get it… different “blogger” thangs…<br />
How do I get my picture up here all trendy and like…<br />
I’m glad you said you liked my tagline or whatever the expression is… no-one else has even mentioned it!<br />
Many thanks for your expression…<br />
are you teaching French in schools though?<br />
Are most Canadians fully bilingual like Belgians then? I’ve noticed the English speaking portion don’t really seem ever to mention their francophone co-hortts…<br />
Then I saw Celine Dion speaking on TV from years ago and was genuinely surprised that she was bad at English… is Canada really such a divided country?<br />
Please tell me you can tell me privately on my email if you don’t want to leave a comment… bear in mind I spend about 7 years of my life studying French, Welsh and German (long story) so languages are a fascination of mine…<br />
 <img src='http://correresmidestino.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' />   <img src='http://correresmidestino.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' />   <img src='http://correresmidestino.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><em>Gledwood’s last blog post..</em><a href='http://gledwood2.blogspot.com/2007/11/i-cleaned-out-my-gremlins-into-brand.html' rel="nofollow">Brand New Gremlinerry/etc…</a></p>
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		<title>By: ammaro.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>ammaro.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 13:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you know, we see this all around our country (bahrain). its a tiny country, population of around 700,000 people, but with the amount of people coming in for jobs, citizenship, etc, the whole shape of society is being skewed. culture is being changed. the whole atmosphere has changed to accomodate all the foreigners (new locals).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you know, we see this all around our country (bahrain). its a tiny country, population of around 700,000 people, but with the amount of people coming in for jobs, citizenship, etc, the whole shape of society is being skewed. culture is being changed. the whole atmosphere has changed to accomodate all the foreigners (new locals).</p>
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		<title>By: Zhu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zhu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Diesel&lt;/strong&gt;: Sometimes I&#039;m optimistic. And I think I love people.

&lt;strong&gt;Keshi&lt;/strong&gt;: and also a lot of personal feelings getting in the way... I think once you&#039;ve gone through the immigration process, once you&#039;ve understood what being a foreigner actually means, you see things differently.

&lt;strong&gt;Shantanu&lt;/strong&gt;: I like the concept of global village, but of course, it&#039;s not all black or white. There&#039;s room for educating people about the benefits of immigration though... do you have a lot of immigrants in India ? Just curious.

&lt;strong&gt;Itelli&lt;/strong&gt;: I love the quote !  :lol: Sorry about my not-so-Scottish-friendly flag plugin. I respect you guys so much, but no, don&#039;t have the Scottish flag plugin yet...  :lol: 

&lt;strong&gt;Mogli&lt;/strong&gt;: we forgot about a lot of things.... we have a short memory. How does Sweden handle the immigration issue ? I&#039;ve always seen Nordic countries as pretty homogeneous, but I may be wrong. Just a stereotype... 

&lt;strong&gt;Richard&lt;/strong&gt;: thanks and why not ! I&#039;ll be over at your blog in a little while  :wink:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Diesel</strong>: Sometimes I’m optimistic. And I think I love people.</p>
<p><strong>Keshi</strong>: and also a lot of personal feelings getting in the way… I think once you’ve gone through the immigration process, once you’ve understood what being a foreigner actually means, you see things differently.</p>
<p><strong>Shantanu</strong>: I like the concept of global village, but of course, it’s not all black or white. There’s room for educating people about the benefits of immigration though… do you have a lot of immigrants in India ? Just curious.</p>
<p><strong>Itelli</strong>: I love the quote !  <img src='http://correresmidestino.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' />  Sorry about my not-so-Scottish-friendly flag plugin. I respect you guys so much, but no, don’t have the Scottish flag plugin yet…  <img src='http://correresmidestino.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p><strong>Mogli</strong>: we forgot about a lot of things.… we have a short memory. How does Sweden handle the immigration issue ? I’ve always seen Nordic countries as pretty homogeneous, but I may be wrong. Just a stereotype… </p>
<p><strong>Richard</strong>: thanks and why not ! I’ll be over at your blog in a little while  <img src='http://correresmidestino.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=':wink:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
I&#039;ve had a look around your site and would be interested in exchanging links with you. If this is of interest, please do get in contact.
Best Wishes,
Richard

&lt;em&gt;Richard&#039;s last blog post..&lt;/em&gt;&lt;a href=&#039;http://richards-realm.the-world-in-focus.com/?p=10637&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mark Ronson featuring Lily Allen - Oh My God&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
I’ve had a look around your site and would be interested in exchanging links with you. If this is of interest, please do get in contact.<br />
Best Wishes,<br />
Richard</p>
<p><em>Richard’s last blog post..</em><a href='http://richards-realm.the-world-in-focus.com/?p=10637' rel="nofollow">Mark Ronson featuring Lily Allen — Oh My God</a></p>
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		<title>By: MOGLi</title>
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		<dc:creator>MOGLi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is also a burning issue here in Sweden, and i guess all over europe. the extreme rights are gaining grounds. 

what i don&#039;t like about many &quot;pioneer immigrants&quot; is they often forget that their ancestors were the ones who usurped the country they claim to have &quot;found&quot;, in many cases almost decimating the native populace. i think people with that kind of hostile mentality towards new waves of immigrants with different cultural values are those who have inherited the smugness and arrogance of their forefathers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is also a burning issue here in Sweden, and i guess all over europe. the extreme rights are gaining grounds. </p>
<p>what i don’t like about many “pioneer immigrants” is they often forget that their ancestors were the ones who usurped the country they claim to have “found”, in many cases almost decimating the native populace. i think people with that kind of hostile mentality towards new waves of immigrants with different cultural values are those who have inherited the smugness and arrogance of their forefathers.</p>
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		<title>By: itelli</title>
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		<dc:creator>itelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 18:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And since we are on the &quot;us vs. them&quot; topic, can I push it a little bit  :twisted:  and ask for the Saltire (the Scottish flag) to appear along my comments instead of the Union Jack? 

Or is the software u r using too state-centric for these purposes?  :lol:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And since we are on the “us vs. them” topic, can I push it a little bit  <img src='http://correresmidestino.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif' alt=':twisted:' class='wp-smiley' />   and ask for the Saltire (the Scottish flag) to appear along my comments instead of the Union Jack? </p>
<p>Or is the software u r using too state-centric for these purposes?  <img src='http://correresmidestino.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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