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		<title>By: Zhu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zhu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 02:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Getty72&lt;/b&gt; : really good question &quot;what will constitute the end of the war?&quot;. Well, no one seem to be able to answer... &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Shan&lt;/b&gt; : do you think it&#039;s just about revenge ? I&#039;m not sure to be honest... &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Yeah, I like the Chinese way of dealing with international diplomacy. &quot;We&#039;re the zongguo, don&#039;t bother us and we won&#039;t do anything to you&quot;. I wonder why people are so scared of China... it is a pretty peaceful place ! :$ &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Paper Fan Club &lt;/b&gt;: it is never ending... and I&#039;M not even sure Canada will pull out in 2009 as they said. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Max&lt;/b&gt; : thanks for the award ! I&#039;m gonna put it in my (empty) trophy room ! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Getty72</b> : really good question “what will constitute the end of the war?”. Well, no one seem to be able to answer… </p>
<p><b>Shan</b> : do you think it’s just about revenge ? I’m not sure to be honest… </p>
<p>Yeah, I like the Chinese way of dealing with international diplomacy. “We’re the zongguo, don’t bother us and we won’t do anything to you”. I wonder why people are so scared of China… it is a pretty peaceful place ! :$ </p>
<p><b>Paper Fan Club </b>: it is never ending… and I’M not even sure Canada will pull out in 2009 as they said. </p>
<p><b>Max</b> : thanks for the award ! I’m gonna put it in my (empty) trophy room ! <img src='http://correresmidestino.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 09:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Zhu!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You have been awarded! Check it out at:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://maxcouti.blogspot.com/2007/08/nice-matters-award.html&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Zhu!</p>
<p>You have been awarded! Check it out at:</p>
<p><a href="http://maxcouti.blogspot.com/2007/08/nice-matters-award.html" rel="nofollow">http://maxcouti.blogspot.com/2007/08/nice-matters-award.html</a></p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Paper Fan Club</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paper Fan Club</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 19:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just saying yesterday to someone that this seems like it will be a never-ending war. What if our children have their own children before the end is in sight? Canada says it will pull out in 2009, but unless the Conservatives are out of power, that won&#039;t happen. Very sad situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just saying yesterday to someone that this seems like it will be a never-ending war. What if our children have their own children before the end is in sight? Canada says it will pull out in 2009, but unless the Conservatives are out of power, that won’t happen. Very sad situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Shan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 14:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very insightful I must say.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Revenge is one of our most basic instincts and be assaulted by terrorists bring up that kind of feeling. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As much as we want the modern wars to be clean, it simply can&#039;t be. You have to remember America is not fighting a nation nor a conventional war, it is fighting terrorists. Their purpose is to terrorise and their methods involve guerilla tactics and anything to gain an advantage over a numerically and technologically superior &quot;enemy&quot;.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If we go about using conventional methods of war, more will die. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I totally understand that civilians are the ones who suffers the most by the activities of the minority but that is war for you.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The world&#039;s most powerful nation combined fighting with one of the world&#039;s most dangerous terrorist groups and you get what you get.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We do what we have to do protect those we love and that may involve killing innocent bystanders because well, that&#039;s war.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We as humans have not evolved to the point where we can resolve our issues with diplomacy. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I like Max&#039;s post, she puts what&#039;s on my mind onto paper quite well but I feel my philosophy is more stronger worded than hers. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As a true blood Chinese, we mindset is a bit different than many. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If you live in harmony with me, I will do the same. If you mess with me, I will hurt you back twice the damager and I won&#039;t stop until you have suffered what I have suffered twice.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But I still like DP and getty&#039;s comments as well. It&#039;s coming something like domination hasn&#039;t it...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But America is going to suffer badly if it goes to war with Iran and i know it will suffer very badly. Iran&#039;s technology is advanced enough to do serious damage to America&#039;s Navy which will be crucial in any invasion.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If it does, I feel it may really drag into 3rd World War... I remember an Einstein&#039;s quote: &quot;I don&#039;t know what kind of weapons will be used in the third world war, assuming there will be a third world war. But I can tell you what the fourth world war will be fought with -- stone clubs.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very insightful I must say.</p>
<p>Revenge is one of our most basic instincts and be assaulted by terrorists bring up that kind of feeling. </p>
<p>As much as we want the modern wars to be clean, it simply can’t be. You have to remember America is not fighting a nation nor a conventional war, it is fighting terrorists. Their purpose is to terrorise and their methods involve guerilla tactics and anything to gain an advantage over a numerically and technologically superior “enemy”.</p>
<p>If we go about using conventional methods of war, more will die. </p>
<p>I totally understand that civilians are the ones who suffers the most by the activities of the minority but that is war for you.</p>
<p>The world’s most powerful nation combined fighting with one of the world’s most dangerous terrorist groups and you get what you get.</p>
<p>We do what we have to do protect those we love and that may involve killing innocent bystanders because well, that’s war.</p>
<p>We as humans have not evolved to the point where we can resolve our issues with diplomacy. </p>
<p>I like Max’s post, she puts what’s on my mind onto paper quite well but I feel my philosophy is more stronger worded than hers. </p>
<p>As a true blood Chinese, we mindset is a bit different than many. </p>
<p>If you live in harmony with me, I will do the same. If you mess with me, I will hurt you back twice the damager and I won’t stop until you have suffered what I have suffered twice.</p>
<p>But I still like DP and getty’s comments as well. It’s coming something like domination hasn’t it…</p>
<p>But America is going to suffer badly if it goes to war with Iran and i know it will suffer very badly. Iran’s technology is advanced enough to do serious damage to America’s Navy which will be crucial in any invasion.</p>
<p>If it does, I feel it may really drag into 3rd World War… I remember an Einstein’s quote: “I don’t know what kind of weapons will be used in the third world war, assuming there will be a third world war. But I can tell you what the fourth world war will be fought with — stone clubs.”</p>
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		<title>By: Getty72</title>
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		<dc:creator>Getty72</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 10:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just been watching the news this morning...  3 more British soldiers killed by &#039;friendly fire&#039; from an American plane.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Almost every day, we hear of more fatalities.  Another life lost... another family shattered...  and as you said, even if we put aside the loss of life.  There are thousands with serious injuries that they will have to carry for the rest of their lives.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In my opinion, one death is one too many.  The question is, what will constitute the end of the war?  A new American President?  All muslims agreeing to become christians?  I totally agree with your last comment to DP.  &quot;It&#039;s not to do with &#039;Right&#039; and &#039;Wrong&#039; anymore&quot;.  It&#039;s economics, it&#039;s politics, it&#039;s greed, it&#039;s power - dare I say... it&#039;s domination.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I was wondering after reading your previous post, what would the world be like if we were all atheists?  With no religion to argue over... we&#039;d probably fight over the price of fish!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We still have a lot to learn from mother nature...  Scientists say that Whales are more intelligent than us.  Well, perhaps the Whales have got it right.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Big friendly hugs ~ Graham :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ve just been watching the news this morning…  3 more British soldiers killed by ‘friendly fire’ from an American plane.  </p>
<p>Almost every day, we hear of more fatalities.  Another life lost… another family shattered…  and as you said, even if we put aside the loss of life.  There are thousands with serious injuries that they will have to carry for the rest of their lives.</p>
<p>In my opinion, one death is one too many.  The question is, what will constitute the end of the war?  A new American President?  All muslims agreeing to become christians?  I totally agree with your last comment to DP.  “It’s not to do with ‘Right’ and ‘Wrong’ anymore”.  It’s economics, it’s politics, it’s greed, it’s power — dare I say… it’s domination.</p>
<p>I was wondering after reading your previous post, what would the world be like if we were all atheists?  With no religion to argue over… we’d probably fight over the price of fish!</p>
<p>We still have a lot to learn from mother nature…  Scientists say that Whales are more intelligent than us.  Well, perhaps the Whales have got it right.</p>
<p>Big friendly hugs ~ Graham <img src='http://correresmidestino.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Zhu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zhu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Deadpoolite&lt;/b&gt; : I&#039;m trying to be optimistic. I&#039;m just not sure what to think. I&#039;d like people to try to see both side of the story - me included. It&#039;s just not evil vs. good anymore. The story isn&#039;t that simple... &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;*sight* hopeless dreamer that I am...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Deadpoolite</b> : I’m trying to be optimistic. I’m just not sure what to think. I’d like people to try to see both side of the story — me included. It’s just not evil vs. good anymore. The story isn’t that simple… </p>
<p>*sight* hopeless dreamer that I am…</p>
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		<title>By: Zhu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zhu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Max&lt;/b&gt; : I am bound to be disappointed, I know. I just can&#039;t help it ! Being a dreamer... ;)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Our countries were formed by the use of war and I&#039;m not proud of it. And I do respect soldiers fighting over there, they do their job as I said and I don&#039;t think they enjoy it. Some mission can be rewarding, like peace keeping, but reading the testimonies of soldiers back from Middle-East... yuck, it sucks. And they feel this way too. So I&#039;d never blame the army for sure !&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;On the West... I&#039;d never support any radical system, and I&#039;m certainly not going to support the Talibans. I can&#039;t even understand them as a matter of fact, they&#039;re evil for sure. But what I&#039;m thinking right is... what if the East sometimes legitimately saw us as evil as well ? For all the wars we started (not talking about the current ones... but history...) ? For the colonization ? Slavery ? WWII butchery ? They would have the right to think we&#039;re barbaric as well... how can we say we have the right to rule the world ?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m trying to see the two sides of the story. I&#039;d compare the Talibans to the Nazi. Both evil, both ideologies have to be destroyed. But the in-between ? When kids grow up seeing western soldiers with weapons around them, they might no think they&#039;re here to help... but here to &quot;colonize&quot; them.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There&#039;s a thin line...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Max</b> : I am bound to be disappointed, I know. I just can’t help it ! Being a dreamer… <img src='http://correresmidestino.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Our countries were formed by the use of war and I’m not proud of it. And I do respect soldiers fighting over there, they do their job as I said and I don’t think they enjoy it. Some mission can be rewarding, like peace keeping, but reading the testimonies of soldiers back from Middle-East… yuck, it sucks. And they feel this way too. So I’d never blame the army for sure !</p>
<p>On the West… I’d never support any radical system, and I’m certainly not going to support the Talibans. I can’t even understand them as a matter of fact, they’re evil for sure. But what I’m thinking right is… what if the East sometimes legitimately saw us as evil as well ? For all the wars we started (not talking about the current ones… but history…) ? For the colonization ? Slavery ? WWII butchery ? They would have the right to think we’re barbaric as well… how can we say we have the right to rule the world ?</p>
<p>I’m trying to see the two sides of the story. I’d compare the Talibans to the Nazi. Both evil, both ideologies have to be destroyed. But the in-between ? When kids grow up seeing western soldiers with weapons around them, they might no think they’re here to help… but here to “colonize” them.</p>
<p>There’s a thin line…</p>
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		<title>By: Zhu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zhu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;zunnur&lt;/b&gt; : I can tell a lot of people &quot;respected&quot; Saddam in a way for that. Despite its dictatorship... &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This is a big schism in the world right now cause the USA are always seen as the bullies... and I can understand why some nation don&#039;t like them and would rather turn to questionable leaders. That said, I don&#039;t think the USA are the only bully : unfortunately, it&#039;s a Western culture vs. the rest of the world war right now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>zunnur</b> : I can tell a lot of people “respected” Saddam in a way for that. Despite its dictatorship… </p>
<p>This is a big schism in the world right now cause the USA are always seen as the bullies… and I can understand why some nation don’t like them and would rather turn to questionable leaders. That said, I don’t think the USA are the only bully : unfortunately, it’s a Western culture vs. the rest of the world war right now…</p>
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		<title>By: Zhu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zhu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Shionge&lt;/b&gt; : It&#039;s sad. For both the soldiers who are doing the dirty job (and I&#039;m sure they don&#039;t enjoy being there) and for the civilians. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Jaklang&lt;/b&gt; : I&#039;ve heard of the 9/11 debate but as far as I know, the attacks were caused by Al Quaeda. I wouldn&#039;t have the proof they weren&#039;t... However, to me, the war is questionable.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Don&#039;t worry about offending people.:)  We all come from different backgrounds, cultures, education etc. so we&#039;re bound to have different point of view. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Shionge</b> : It’s sad. For both the soldiers who are doing the dirty job (and I’m sure they don’t enjoy being there) and for the civilians. </p>
<p><b>Jaklang</b> : I’ve heard of the 9/11 debate but as far as I know, the attacks were caused by Al Quaeda. I wouldn’t have the proof they weren’t… However, to me, the war is questionable.</p>
<p>Don’t worry about offending people.:)  We all come from different backgrounds, cultures, education etc. so we’re bound to have different point of view. <img src='http://correresmidestino.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Deadpoolite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deadpoolite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 17:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a neverending cycle of violence...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This world was not build on human emotions and good intentions just on people&#039;s greed for power and money. All we can do is maintain some optimism that things will get better before they get worse...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I am sure this hope is what keeps people &quot;in the thick of things&quot; hoping for a better tomorrow and trying to survive one more day... &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Great post Zhu!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a neverending cycle of violence…</p>
<p>This world was not build on human emotions and good intentions just on people’s greed for power and money. All we can do is maintain some optimism that things will get better before they get worse…</p>
<p>I am sure this hope is what keeps people “in the thick of things” hoping for a better tomorrow and trying to survive one more day… </p>
<p>Great post Zhu!</p>
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