Chiruza Canadiense - Dreaming of Canada
Chiruza Canadiense – Dreaming of Canada

Update: Things turned very weird with “Chiruza Canadiense later on. She did make it to Canada but the country didn’t live up to expectations and she wasn’t the person I thought she was either. Read the whole drama here.

Meet “Chiruza Canadiense”, deeply ironic nickname she picked. In Lunfardo, a slang spoken in Uruguay and Argentina, a “chiruza” is a poorly educated woman.

Yet our “Chiruza Canadiense” is a young professional woman in her thirties. She is from Argentina and lives in Buenos Aires. She is one of these thousands of immigrants who applied under Quebec’s skilled worker category and she is stuck in processing limbo.

I met “Chiruza Canadiense” through this blog. She reached out because the long processing times were driving her crazy. I had very little advice to offer and felt terrible because I had it easy—back in 2005, it took me only five months to get my permanent resident visa.

She is still waiting, like a lot of prospective immigrants. She went through hell but keeps a positive attitude and makes plans, both for her life in Argentina and her future life in Canada.

Why did you decide to immi­grate to Canada?

My answer is twofold: there are reasons why I don’t want to live in Argentina anymore, and there are reasons why I chose Canada.

I decided to leave Argentina because I can’t stand life there:

I went to university for 10 years, got my degree, have 5 years of experience in my field, speak three languages, and keep on doing a huge effort to become a better professional—yet no one in the job market since values my efforts or give a damn about it. I notice a lack of professional opportunities, it’s really hard to grow or move on in your field. Yes, I’m professionally frustrated… and I admit it.

If at a certain point in your life, you were not lucky enough to find a good, stable and well-paid job, then you’re basically screwed and condemned to jump from one shitty and badly-paid job to another. The latter happened and keeps on happening to me.

The lack of planning and the way everything is being half-done at the last minute drives me crazy.

I know for a fact that here, I can work all my life and yet never be able to buy anything (and I don’t want that for me). Everything is extremely expensive and overpriced, credit is nonexistent, etc.

In Argentina, the one who avoids the rules is the smart one….and the one who likes to stick to them (which is my case) is the fool one. This behaviour is so common we even have a term to refer to it: “Viveza criolla”. I’m sick of looking like an idiot for liking respecting others and following the rules.

I don’t like dealing with corruption, distrusting the banks because otherwise, they steal your money, insecurity, devaluation, super high level of inflation, the hospitals and education being so collapsed, the transit chaos, the constant subway strikes, the stress, the society being so chaotic in general…

The lack of respect for others, and the loss of values.

Because I’ve had it.

And why Canada? Because…

It’s a country open to immigration, with an easy and fast (well, not anymore!) immigration process.

In theory, for me, the process should have been easy, since I have the right background: my brother lives in Québec and I have friends there, I meet all the requirements (I speak both official languages, I’m young, healthy, with a highly-demanded profession, 5 years of experience in my field, a new graduate, etc.)

It’s a first world country. And I want to experience life in a first-world country.

I want to stop feeling so worried and stressed all the time—I am so stressed out that I am losing my hair. And Canada is one of the countries with the best life quality in the world. I wouldn’t mind having some life quality.

Opportunities exist for real, and it’s up to me: I’m the one who decides where the limit is or how much I want to grow or in which direction.

I’m thankful for everything I know Canada gave to my brother.

I know in Canada I will work as hard as I do in Argentina… but I will be worth it and valued.

I think I’ll find everything I long for in my life, basically, everything I’m tired of searching for (and not finding) in Argentina.

When did you start the immigration process? Which immigration category did you apply in?

I applied in November 2011 under Québec’s skilled worker program.

At what stage of the process are you currently?

Hard to admit (and accept!) that it’s been 15 months already and that I’m still at the beginning of the process!

I’m still waiting for the BIQ México (Bureau d’immigration du Québec in Mexico) to assess my application and to make a decision regarding a possible interview.

Do you speak French? Where did you learn English?

Yes…I speak both languages. I’m fluent in English, and I speak French as well at an intermediate level (Salut tout le monde ! ;-).

I started to learn English with a private professor in 1996, when I was 16 and stopped taking classes after passing the First Certificate with a high mark, three and a half years later. I’m still learning though:  I listen to music in English, I watch movies without subtitles, I try to speak English as much as I can, etc.

I started to study French in October 2011 because of my immigration process. I take classes at the Alliance Française, the best (and most expensive!) place for studying French in Buenos Aires! I also took private classes with a French teacher from Paris. I’m focused on getting ready for Québec’s selection interview.

How do you deal with the wait? I.e. are you doing research on Canada, thinking about it a lot or are you focusing on living your life at home?

How do I deal with the wait? Oh, I don’t deal with it well at all! I am not a good example—I hate waiting. I always say that I won’t have to worry about my hairstyle for the Québec’ selection interview since by then I will have pulled out all of my hair!

When I started the immigration process I had no idea I’d have to go through these oh-so-long processing times.

After the desperation, the anxiety, the hair pulling, the worrying, and all those not-so-nice feelings, you reach a point where you realize there’s nothing else you can do and you just have to let it go.

I mean, how long can someone live with his life completely on hold? It’s just not healthy anymore.

At one point, I was stuck in a job I didn’t like and didn’t treat me well and life was hell. I wasn’t buying basic things I needed for my apartment and everyday life, I decided not to start any new relationships of any kind (to cut my ties with Argentina), I walked the streets with the bare minimum because I was scared, etc. Most of the time, I stayed alone in the small studio apartment I live in. I was feeling sad, I didn’t want to go out anywhere but to the Canadian Embassy. I had no fun,  no time to relax, I was worried about everything all the time, obsessed with my French studies, terrified of the selection interview, etc…I was alive but felt dead.

See what I mean? Not exactly a healthy way to live.

It all has to stop. Wanting to leave for Canada ASAP and not being allowed to, and being on hold for 15 months with no news is shitty, but I realized that immigrants were right when they said that life goes on wherever in the world you are.

So things changed. I took another job, rebuilt friendships, furnished my place, I go out more often… and love even showed up in my life 🙂

I don’t forget I’m in the immigration process but I realized I’m not dead in the meantime either.

What would be your plans once in Canada? Where do you want to live, what kind of work would you like to do?

I plan to land in Montréal during spring or summer time. For the first months, the plan is to rent a studio apartment in Côte de Neiges, a neighbourhood which, according to friends (thanks Cristina and Martín!) is great for a newcomer since it’s close to everything, affordable, etc. There, I will adapt to Canada.

After that, we’ll see how things work out. I’m fond of Ile des Soeurs neighbourhood but I don’t know how things will turn out. Will I find a job in Montréal or will I have to move? Will I enjoy living in a French-speaking province? I will go with the flow.

Two or three years after landing, I’m hoping to have a steady life, both economically and professionally speaking. This is something I was never able to do here in Argentina. It’s truly important to me, and it is one of the reasons why I decided to leave Argentina.

O the long term (in 5 years’ time), I’d like to achieve simple but important things, such as buying my own apartment (again, an impossible goal in Argentina).

I’m an information system professional with a focus on Java, so my plan is to continue moving forward in my field. I have already contacted HR professionals in Montréal and looked up IT profiles (thank God for Linkedin!). I wrote several emails (in French!) explaining my situation, and the feedback I received was great.  Most people asked me to contact them again once I get my visa to discuss professional opportunities!

From what you’ve heard, what aspect of life in Canada do you find interesting?

I long for the things I want for my life and could never find in Argentina: an orderly society, in which the smart one is not the one trying to avoid the rules but the one who follows them, stability of any kind you can imagine (economical, political, social, etc.). I want (and deserve to!) live in a place where I don’t have to worry all the time about inflation and that is safe, where there is no corruption (or at least not as much!), with equal possibilities for everyone, where there is respect, where values are not oh-so-damn lost, where streets are clean and rules followed… a place where I can find some peace for my mind and soul.

I always wonder how it must feel to live in a place like that.

What’s one thing from Argentina you would take with you? Literally… or culturally speaking!

If I could, I’d take along the people I love and I care for. But that’s not possible, since they’re happy here and have no plans to immigrate.

What do you wish you would have known before starting the immigration process?

This applies only to me, but I wish I had known that the BIQ at Sao Paulo would be closed down and therefore my immigration file would be transferred to the BIQ in México, a visa office with a much longer wait time!

If I had known, I’d have managed a couple of things differently and made different decisions…

What advice would you give to someone starting the immigration process?

Make sure this is what you truly want since the immigration process is not a piece of cake. It consumes time, energy, money, nerves, patience… all limited resources!

And secondly, be patient… you will need some. Everyone keeps on saying that, and I realized it’s absolutely true and vital if you don’t want to drive yourself nuts!

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23 Comments

  1. Chiruza Canadiense March 9, 2013 at 8:36 am

    Thanks so much for interviewing me Zhu ! I’m delighted that you chose me !

    I’m available in case anyone wants to ask me anything 😉

    Reply
    1. Zhu March 9, 2013 at 9:55 am

      De nada! I hope I will bring you some “Canadian luck” 🙂

      Reply
  2. Dennation March 9, 2013 at 3:31 pm

    Reading this article makes me feel thankful that I come from such a great country and that I have the freedom to live in other first-rate countries.

    Good luck Chiruza and I hope to get to Canada soon!

    Thank you Zhu for bringing this series back. I look forward to the next interview.

    Reply
    1. Zhu March 9, 2013 at 7:19 pm

      As a Canadian and EU-passport holder, I know I am lucky. Life isn’t fair when it comes to visa rights…

      I am glad you like the series. More great interviews to come!

      Reply
      1. Chiruza Canadiense March 10, 2013 at 12:37 pm

        What I don’t think is fair, is that they (Imm Québec) are used to bragging about how equal the process is for everyone….I mean, seriously ? For instance, Guillermo an my brother’s processes took them only 11 months each in total, then how come I’ve been waiting for more than 15 months by now and I’m still at the beginning of the process ?

        Pardon my language, but equal my ass !

        Reply
        1. Zhu March 10, 2013 at 4:06 pm

          I know… what happens inside visa offices remains a mystery.

          Reply
  3. Estefania March 9, 2013 at 9:58 pm

    I love these series ! I lucky my immigration process took only 8 months. Chiruza, I’m from Argentina and live in Canada. You can get in touch with me if you want! Zhu, if she says yes could you give her my email ? Gracias 🙂

    Reply
    1. Zhu March 9, 2013 at 10:14 pm

      Thank you Estafania for reaching out! Will do 🙂

      Reply
    2. Chiruza Canadiense March 10, 2013 at 1:19 pm

      Hi Estefania,

      I’m shocked the whole process took you only 8 months, that’s so fast ! Under which immigration program did you apply ?

      Well, actually, the BIQ used to be quite fast as well ! Back when the BIQ was placed in Buenos Aires, and later on in Sao Paulo, you could get the CSQ in about 3 months ! But to deal with the BIQ Mexico is a pain in the back, everyone says so….they can make you wait for up to 24 months just to get the CSQ ! It’s crazy, really….

      Anyway, Zhu sent me your e-mail already, I’ll write you right away ! =)

      Reply
      1. Zhu March 10, 2013 at 4:06 pm

        You really had a string of bad luck/bad timing with the visa office I think 🙁

        Reply
        1. Chiruza Canadiense March 10, 2013 at 9:13 pm

          I think us all who are dealing with the BIQ México had 🙁

          Reply
          1. Zhu March 10, 2013 at 10:26 pm

            Such a crazy thing that you depend on this BIQ… I mean, it’s thousands of km away!

  4. shionge March 10, 2013 at 8:16 pm

    I have friends from Argentina and interesting to read this perspective from another Argentine 😀 Wish her good luck.

    Reply
    1. Zhu March 10, 2013 at 9:09 pm

      Thank you on her behalf!

      Reply
    2. Chiruza Canadiense March 10, 2013 at 9:11 pm

      Muchas gracias !Thank you very much ! Merci beaucoup ! 🙂

      Reply
    3. Deepak May 10, 2013 at 8:15 am

      Hello,
      I have just now come across this forum. I am planing to apply for the Skilled Migration Visa from Argentina. I am living in Argentina legally for last one year, am an Indian National. I am married and Blessed with one new born kid.

      How long normally does it takes and what is the process ?

      Thanks,
      Deepak

      Reply
      1. Zhu May 10, 2013 at 10:25 am

        You can read about the immigration process on http://www.cic.gc.ca. Processing times vary greatly, but I’d say at least a year to several years.

        Reply
  5. Chiruza Canadiense March 28, 2013 at 8:47 am

    Hey Zhu,

    Well, I’m finally able to give you a feedback, and the news I have aren’t good at all….

    Tomorrow (March 29th) I’m turning 16 months of waiting with no news. It’s like I don’t exist to the BIQ México.

    Imm Québec was supposed to put up to date the schedule of selection missions for skilled workers on March 1st, but they decided to do it yesterday…yes, on March 27th. Yes, Imm QC, take your time, no rush, hu ?

    And….once again, like it’s been done in the last year and a half, they’re not coming to interview to the southern part of Latinamerica.

    Sometimes I think about giving it up. Maybe QC is just not interested in me.

    Reply
    1. Zhu March 28, 2013 at 9:44 am

      Ugh, sorry about the news! I know how you must feel, this is endless. Take a deep breath and take the time to see your options. Would you be eligible under another program?

      Reply
      1. Chiruza Canadiense March 31, 2013 at 3:37 pm

        Yeap, these news are as shitty as hell. I’ve been pretty depressed since these news. I spoke to other prospective immigrants who are in the exact same situation I am, and they told me they also thought of giving it up. Sometimes I just can’t take this anymore. Apart from my French classes, and the fact that I’m selling stuff I don’t need, it’s like I wasn’t going through an immigration process.

        I don’t know if I’d be eligible under another program, but I don’t think I have either the strength or the money to start all over again. It’s like I already got into Québec, so I have to keep on trying to move forward in that line.

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        1. Zhu March 31, 2013 at 7:15 pm

          I hear you 🙁 I think I would “prendre mon mal en patience”, a French phrase that basically means “grin and bear it”, even though it sucks. You are so close… giving up wouldn’t make sense. I promise that one day you will look back and laugh about it.

          Reply
  6. jess February 6, 2014 at 9:19 am

    Hi, could I ask what your profession is Chiruza? I’m looking into returning to university when I can gather the funds and I would like to know what field I should go into.

    Reply
    1. Zhu February 6, 2014 at 2:53 pm

      She is in IT I believe.

      Reply

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